Anyhow it looks like the RCBS VLD fashion. Small Centre pilot with 3 curved cutting edges that adhere out like claws. Also just like the Lyman types that come to the Lyman Device. I understood I shoulda waited and read a little bit more just before posting. Looks as if https://brass-for-22329528.digiblogbox.com/62090932/the-2-minute-rule-for-223-once-fired-brass